Gary Brecka

Yeah, let's talk about the first sale.

And they're like, well, Coke or Pepsi or Monster Energy has done it, and this tastes better, so it's going to be a billion dollars.

And I'm like, there's a lot of distance between cup and lip there.

But by the same token, I feel like there's a lot of these young entrepreneurs that because

everything is not mapped out and because everything is not perfect, they actually really don't believe much in their idea.

You know, I went through this with, going through this with my daughter and

She's launching a chemical-free skincare line, which she's deeply passionate about.

She's a nurse.

She had a background in health services administration, just always been healthy, always been very, very cautious about what she's put on her skin.

And when she got her medical degree, she really started going down the rabbit hole of all these things that damage your skin, phthalates, parabens, polyfluoroalkyls.

She just went headfirst into starting the skincare line.

It's been amazing to watch her

as a young entrepreneur, unpack this.

But what I noticed that she does a lot of times is, you know, when I ask her if she'd shared this idea with some of the people that she holds in the highest regard in her life,

She hasn't, because she's afraid that the idea is not yet good enough.

So I can see that her belief, and hopefully this podcast comes out after she launches this, sort of throwing Madison under the bus.

But we talk about it a lot, but it's, you know,

Is her belief in it as strong as it needs to be for someone to like lead a brand and lead a company that you passionately want to start?

Fear of failure.

Yeah.