Gordon D'Arcy

But if you put a pivot pass into that on a transition or whatever it is, you just kill the moment.

The big thing for me as well is the URC.

I think the final will be dictated by who finishes first and second in the league.

Yeah, it's a big carrot for, and I probably understand the logic which is to drive performance during the league, to get teams wanting to win on the road so that they can get that home semi and maybe home finals.

The other one was Jerry Carr.

What a great performance.

I think there was a lot of chat about it beforehand.

We talked about it earlier in the week.

He did a brilliant job.

Didn't look out of place.

Carried when he needed to carry, but the strong fundamentals of the game.

I think it was Royal Nugent was saying, you know, there's a great player on the way to Connacht next year.

I think that's probably the bit we probably need to come back to as well.

This isn't the trophy that Leinster wanted, but I think this is the trophy that Leinster deserve.

Well, Paul likes to try and educate me on football quite regularly at every point.

One of the key points he stayed away from this year was about who won the league in the

Gordon is an Arsenal fan.

Yeah.

So I had the idea for this book.

And thankfully, Paul didn't ghost me when I rang him to say, listen, would you like to do this with me again?