Hilary Duff

I really remember just feeling like my shoulders could be like... And it was really a nice weight off.

And then our relationship from there continued to just be...

like emotional shelter, you know, instead of dramatic, like craving those younger, dramatic highs and lows and just feeling better in the like steady, which also comes with challenges.

And I talk about those challenges a lot on luck or something.

It's nice to be where we are right now and know that some of those highs and lows feel like a snapshot of a timeframe instead of a continual struggle, you know?

It's really hard to accept.

Yeah, and you want to, like, poke holes in it to make sure it's, like, steady enough.

You know?

That's what I felt like I was doing.

I think it added an extra pressure that I had a child already.

And, like, I didn't want to expose him to something that wasn't, like, for sure going to stick and work out for me.

Yeah, I mean, I just feel so settled in a good way.

Like, so happy that I... I'm like, God...

How old were you when you got married?

So pretty young.

I wonder if it's like that by design.

Because marriage is like so hard and it's such a big choice that I wonder if you do it like at a slightly younger stage of your life or else you wouldn't do it because it's such like a crazy.

It's such a crazy thing to commit to.

Oh, you did?

Then you guys moved to LA and you're like, oh, no one's married here?