Hillary McVeigh

So you even loving yourself as a mother and like who you get to be as a mother.

And I feel like, again, that like self autonomy around that of, yeah, it's all your journey here.

You never have to wait.

You never have to wait to be grateful.

You never have to wait to feel fulfilled.

You never have to wait to feel loved.

And then they're just more and more mirrors to reflect it back to you as they come in your life.

So that makes me so emotional that you're like, that you felt that energy and just being like, because I absolutely, he was thinking at the same time.

Exactly, exactly.

And can you please speak a bit more about receiving and also investing in yourself?

We've spoke about it briefly, but I think, yeah, it's so much guilt around that and what it gives you and how it ripples on effect is so much more important than just thinking that you're not worthy.

It's a reflection of whether you feel worthy

I need to have earned it to deserve it or something like that.

Mic drop.

Wow.

Yes, Savina.

And yeah, because it's, I think we live in such a world that's so numb.

And so it's actually uncomfortable to even feel joys to some people.

It's uncomfortable, uncomfortable to feel pleasure.

Exactly.