Ian Bremmer
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So that's
I think if Trump could accomplish that, and I think so far it appears it's going to be harder to do that than many thought, but if Trump could accomplish that, that would be success.
Where I think there's overlap between the U.S.
and Israel is, as you suggested, just the degradation of the capabilities.
We may not agree entirely on the outcome, but let's just make sure that whatever β
Frankenstein emerges from this war in Tehran in the form of a regime or a post-regime, they simply don't have the capabilities to wreak havoc.
So let's just literally, which is what they've been doing.
They've been taking out their naval capabilities.
They've been taking care of a lot of their offensive capabilities and their defensive capabilities.
And really now,
the whole what they're trying to do, especially the Israelis, is taking out the whole industrial base that supports the production of missiles and drones.
And so just systematically take out the menacing weapons infrastructure of Iran so that even if there is not regime change to something much more constructive and responsible, at least whatever exists will not be able to pose the threat
to the U.S.
and Israel at the end of this.
And by the way, on that front, we can get into a conversation about the Strait.
And on that front, though, I do think they're making a lot of progress.
And I think Trump doing what he's doing right now with this negotiations, I'll wait a few days, it's buying him time.
If you look at the military operations that are happening day to day right now, it's taking out the industrial base that supports weapons production in Iran is still happening right now, even though Trump is talking about negotiations.
You know, the Israelis have this term that they use, mowing the lawn, which has basically been the essence of their policy with regard to Hamas, ironically, over the last couple of decades, which is they are never going to getβthis is all pre-October 7thβthey're never going to get into a long, drawn-out, full-frontal war against Hamas and try to eliminate Hamas.
Obviously, that attitude changed after October 7th.