Jacob Saffle

You know, the Supreme Court have just said, have not said he's not guilty, but what they've said is...

you know, there should be a retrial.

But, you know, I think some people view this as, oh, he didn't do it.

It's like, well, you need to go back and look over some of this stuff because, you know...

sometimes you forget about some of these little details in a case.

And as you know, like when we're working on season six and you get so far in the tree, sometimes you can, you need to go back and remember kind of these, these little details back here that we may have forgotten about.

Um, you know, what, what were your thoughts when you're listening back through that stuff and, you know, with the wire and all that stuff at the end of the tower?

Yeah.

Yeah, I think, man, so so much.

I think, first of all, we do have to make a distinction that's important in that, you know, a conviction or, you know, his his charges being quashed right now.

Lawyers aren't arguing.

No, he didn't do it.

What they're what they're arguing is, no, you can't prove that he did it.

And that's the distinction that we have to remember that we're making here or that the court is making.

And it's one that gets blurred a lot.

So when it comes to –

if you've been listening in a season six at all, if you've been listening to our debriefs at all, a warm part of a vehicle is not a smoking gun make.

Okay.

And, and, um, yeah, I mean, you know, I, I immediately, that's what I thought of, man.

I thought of that car hood as soon as I hear, you know, David Tomahairy going to the muffler, like, here we go.