Jake White

I think Bernard would understand.

If I'd said to Bernard when I met him in Montpelier, you'd be looking after equestrian sport in Ireland in X amount of times, you'd be a TV pundit, he would have laughed at me.

So I don't know, Neil.

I don't know.

I still love rugby.

Rugby has been incredibly kind to me.

I still watch it with as much passion and I still try and learn as much as I can.

So I don't know.

I mean, I really don't know what the next step is.

But, you know, as long as I've still got that desire to take that pressure and be in that situation, I would like to think that I can still add value.

I'll tell you what I would do.

And I actually know the Irish rugby guy, David Humphries, well.

And I think I've been reading a lot, Neil, about this lot thing about James Lowe leaving and therefore there'll be more equality to...

to the Irish teams because the love has been given to Leinster.

I'm just saying what I read.

I'm not saying it's mine.

My answer to Carl is I think that when you can get Ulster, Connacht, Munster and Leinster to be equal, and I'm talking about to give them as much as you can so that they can all be the best, then Irish rugby will improve.

I know it's a logical statement, but when you get the Connacht fans and you get the Ulster fans saying that's what we want because everyone's now been given the same love

In other words, what I'm saying is don't bring the benchmark down and think that you're helping everyone.

Why don't you lift the benchmark to all four?