James Nestor

And the question from a journalist standpoint that I have is how much of this is the breathwork and how much of it is these people trying to show off that they're really having a bigger breakdown than the person next to them?

Okay, that one.

Do you really want to see what comes next after that?

No, no, no.

Well, I have a, that was pretty good.

If people see that, like pretty, pretty good.

Well, we all have these repressed emotions, especially dudes.

We've got to hold it back the whole time.

And once you loosen up enough, once your body is loose, you feel, you know, but that's what's allowed us to survive.

You have to be able to kick in that mode.

Otherwise, you can't run from a tiger, you know, or fight off a warring tribe.

So that's part of our evolution.

We're not meant to stay in it all day long, though.

We're meant to, when we're chilling out...

meant to be truly relaxed and we don't.

So sometimes in these breathwork sessions, just like in ayahuasca or other, you know, drug sessions, or when you're hallucinating for some other reason, you tend to loosen up, right?

And all the stuff comes out.

So I've seen a whole bunch of, whole bunch of stuff.

Has it blown your mind almost sometimes?

Well, the critical part of me is what's the physiology behind this?