Jamie Laing

That's what we tell our kids to do, but we don't put it in ourselves.

Isn't that mad?

We had it right when we were two, three, four, five.

Is loneliness dangerous for us?

Okay.

So if someone is struggling, they feel lonely and they're listening to this right now, but the idea of going to a club is terrifying.

Is there a mini step they can take?

Absolutely.

I quite like it.

Yeah, but I don't like other things that other people like.

How can you not like that?

Yeah, right.

That's why we're all different.

Exactly, exactly.

So wait, now I lost the question.

temperamentally a quieter person you could see if there might be one or two people you could try to get to know a little better through very slow steps small steps but it's also exposure right yeah that that's the hardest thing because what's you know with the heroin addict right it's much easier to keep taking the heroin than to stop doing it yeah because it's easy right that's why you keep taking it feeds you it makes you feel better

With people who are in those situations, much easier to sit at home alone, not connecting, not doing that.

That's counterproductive to your health, to your well-being, to everything.

And taking that first step is the hardest part.

Absolutely.