Jamie Laing

To actually go and do that, to speak to someone, to connect, say, hey, let's go for a coffee.

Absolutely.

That is the hardest part, right?

Okay, if we started a fresh tomorrow and made happiness our number one priority, what are the key things we should be focusing on?

Happiness is one of those things I think we're all striving for, really.

You know, if a genie came to you and said, what would you want your wish to be?

Probably would say, well, I want to be happy.

Or I want to be content.

You know, something around those.

And I've been a huge fan of yours for a long time.

I recently just wrote a book called Boys Don't Cry.

And in it, I cite you.

I write about the tests that you did before I even knew you were going to come on the show.

So for anyone who is listening...

and doesn't know your work or who you are, could you describe to them who you are and what you're best known for?

Okay.

It started in 1938?

Yeah.

What was happening around then for people to start considering happiness?

And what was interesting about the 724 different people, you know, out of it, John F. Kennedy, which is insane.