Jamie Laing

And they can't find that quietness.

What would you say to them?

But that's hard.

If you have a hobby like that, if you love, you know, reading or looking at art or playing music or whatever it may be, that's kind of, you can get yourself into a state where you can feel calm.

But I worry about, you know, especially if I look at my younger brother, 21 years old, right?

Yeah.

It feels like to me a lot of their excitement and their kind of flow state is scrolling TikTok.

yeah and and that is a sort of distraction in a way and you can be distracted you know we've as a sort of as humans we've become distracted but not in a good way i don't think well the distraction of the digital world is a big problem and and you know the

Yeah, but the thing that I have with that whole scrolling of social media is that we all keep saying this is bad for us.

We need to stop this.

We need to change it.

That's what we keep saying, but no one's giving the answers.

And even you and I sit here and we go, we know it's bad.

Right.

But what do we do to stop it?

Because it's only getting more.

I know.

It's only getting places.

These big corporations are only making more money.

They're only working out better algorithms to suck us in more and more.