Jay Dyer

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894 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 13 Jul

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It's a form of sort of Judaizing.
It's a form of returning to a form of rabbinical theology.
And many of the Reformers were actually very influenced by rabbinic theology, by the Talmud even.
So...
So the Reformation has a stream of influences, Renaissance humanism, all those things play into that.
And it's just very— Well, Luther was not in that category, though, no?
He was not interested in rabbinic theology, but he was influenced by what's a text called the Theologia Germanica, which was a Neoplatonic text.
And so there was also some—there's also some evidence that scholars have pulled up that suggests that Luther might have had an interest in Hermeticism.
not saying that that dominates his idea but more so with calvin and some of the uh the swiss reformers they were a little more directly influenced by rabbinic theology and talmudism but not so much luther no luther was very anti i mean he didn't even like moses he said i'd like to punch moses teeth out so so luther didn't even like the old testament at times but again he's a boisterous sort of you know he certainly was satire satirical character at times so uh it's hard to know exactly the most hilarious theologian in history he was very hilarious uh
so it's hard to know exactly when he's always being literally, might just be joking around, but no, I don't mean to mischaracterize, because I know Luther wrote about the Jews and their lives.
That's a famous text that he wrote, so I'm aware of that, but just in terms of the general, you know, trends of the Reformation outside of Luther with Calvin, Zwingli, Melanchthon, even later Lutherans were very involved in the founding of Rosicrucianism.
Johann Andre is believed by some scholars to be the author of the
Rosicrucian Manifesto, I forget exactly what it's called.
So that is there, and a lot of that has to do with Kabbalistic ideas.
This was an Enlightenment-era secret society of sorts, which in the 1600s, 1700s, there was a lot of these that were popping up everywhere, because you still had...
In Protestant countries, you had certain laws that would, and in Catholic countries as well, they would forbid participation in secret societies.
They would forbid, you know, practicing of the occult in various ways.
But you also had court alchemists and people that would kind of, like John Dee, he was the, you know, court astrologer to the queen.
So they would kind of do these things regularly.
in on the in the down low secretly and so you get a rise of these secret societies this is where some of the first speculative masonic lodges start to pop up in the 1500s 1600s in europe but you also had a very interesting confluence of hermetic and kabbalistic groups that were popping up particularly spanish rabbis that were very popular in spain seemed to be involved in some of the the rise of kabbalistic influence in the west um
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