Joanne McNally

I know, I'm the same.

I'm like, why am I so, why am I tinkering around and spiraling around some sort of depression plug hole?

Because you haven't left the house in a week, Joanne.

Also, I'm like you, like if I, and it's, if you have a show that night, I used to feel incredibly guilty about not using the day.

But you're like, well, hold on, you're working nights and you actually do need to keep some energy for shows.

Like, so I'd get really all up in my own head.

Like when I'm on tour, I'd be in, like Derry, for example, I'm like...

I should be going to the museums yeah yeah yeah I should be going you know what I mean I should be going to visit the wall I should be doing all these things like well no you're actually you're working you're working yeah you're you know you're thinking you're processing and you'll fly out of the bed in the evening but yeah I'm I think I think human beings are naturally quite lazy yeah

I'm lazy.

I like to relax.

Yeah.

I don't know, back in the cave days, I don't know how much gathering I would have done really.

Yeah, I don't know.

Like I look at the days of like people lighting a candle and writing for hours.

Like so I, you've written a book and I'm in the midst of writing one and I really do feel like they say the new kind of tragedy is that our attention span is just being stolen left, right and centre.

And like I really noticed it over this Christmas.

Yeah.

I was like, Joanne, what the fuck are you looking at?

Yeah.

There's so little stimulation now that's actually adding to me in any way.