Jodie Hayward

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly that.

I think that people...

People are confusing the wants with the needs.

So what actually people are looking for generally is freedom.

And there's two types of freedom.

There's freedom from and freedom to.

So ultimately, the first step, they're looking for freedom from.

Freedom from their nine to five, freedom from their debt, freedom from whatever it is, you know.

Then we get to the freedom to, freedom to travel, freedom to home educate my kids, whatever it is, freedom to be a mum.

But there's a massive gap between the start of freedom from and freedom to, you know?

And I think that we, it's okay.

What happens is that we come in and we go, right.

And just this, my story was, I would need to home educate my children.

I have massive problems.

beliefs that this is not the time or place for about the UK's education system.

And I wanted to home educate my children and I needed something that facilitated me being at home.

That's why I came into this world.

That was my why.