John Gafford

that.

Cause something you just said is really interesting.

You've managed to, some of the things that you've done would be the absolute highlight reel of a person's life.

That was the peak of my existence.

So what, what did you do in life to put yourself in a position to have these opportunities become reality?

Do you have siblings?

Did you just ruin her life through college for that?

So let me ask you this, because you said that was protecting you, right?

Your mom was trying to protect you.

So isn't there, I mean, with my kids, isn't there, like, where's the line of protection in limiting their beliefs?

How did that impact you with your kids?

Well, how I got – you know what finally worked with my daughter?

I'll tell you my method that finally worked was my daughter is – my daughter looks just like my wife and has my personality.

So God help everybody.

Oh, my God.

And my son looks just like me and has my wife's very affable personality, very rule-following, very affable personality.

So my daughter's room is always a mess.

And she would always say, oh, I'm just messy.

I'm just messy.

I'm just a messy person.