John Gafford

That's okay.

Sorry.

No, your mom and dad are going to be like, I knew it that day in the driveway.

I knew it.

I told you there was something wrong with him in the driveway that day.

Well, let's go back to the metal core deal.

So you get this break.

So this is your first big break with a band that's really running.

Did you ever hit a place where you're like, I don't know if this is going to be it?

Dude, I'll tell you a story.

A similar story of redemption that I love, which was I was hanging out with one of my buddies here in Vegas, and he was out here with a band that he was van, pulling a trailer, touring.

They had just played the Canyon Club at Four Queens in front of 50 people.

Yeah.

he had just gotten his wife had just filed for divorce from him and we were riding he was super down he's like man i don't know maybe i should do something else i don't know what i'm gonna do i don't know what we're doing and that was gosh now that's probably 18 19 years ago and tonight we're going to see him at the sphere so yeah yeah john hopkins is the zach brown band

Let's go, dude.

I'm going to see them tonight.

Yeah, I get it.

I get it.

Have you been in the sphere yet?

You know what's funny?