John Gafford

I said, sure.

And he said, what do you say when people immediately, even after the first couple of seconds, ask if you can call them later?

And I said, A, that doesn't happen to me, but I can tell you why it happens to you.

He said, why?

And I said, do you hear how quickly I speak?

He said, yes.

And I said, listening to you at the rate at which you speak to me is like nails on a chalkboard.

I just, I'm just, I'm screaming in my head, get to the point as you're speaking.

And I'm doing it right now.

And I said, listen, that's okay.

Because here's the flip side of that coin, right?

I don't just get to pick on you without picking on myself a little bit.

To people that speak the way that you do,

If I come at them with the rate at which I speak normally, they're like, eh, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down.

Like, whoa, this is too much, right?

It's like too much for them.

So just like I've got to slow down to reach everybody or reach more people, you've got to speed up to reach more people.

And I think, where's that, like, if you had to pick it, right?

If you had to describe that middle, that perfect spot that's going to reach the most people, because obviously when you're doing this, you can't match a mirror who's listening to this.

I have no idea who's watching this or listening to this.