John Gafford

You know, I help people achieve lifestyle, whatever it is.

It's got to be the end result of what it is.

Probably.

You know, when I was similar a little bit to you, right, when I was 12 years old in seventh grade, I got tagged up to be on the high school extemporaneous public speaking thing.

I wish we had one of those.

And I would have won the state championship had there not been a discrepancy with the time clock a little bit.

I went over by like a minute.

or not a minute, but like 10 seconds.

So I got, I got the cue, but I would have won, but as a 12 year old can be in these high schools in this.

And also at 12, um, I was the star of, of use a local play through the community thing.

And in my hometown, it was called first confession.

So whatever it was, I got, yeah, I got, and it was, and it was a cool thing.

And I always loved that.

So, yeah, I mean, I think, and I think being the kid of divorced parents, I think taught me that.

Okay.

Because I learned very easily how to hustle my parents, right?

So, like, I could go – my parents got divorced, but –

We were still relatively close together.

My dad's office was here.

My mom's nail salon was here.