John Gafford

It was a huge deal for them.

I always wonder that question, you know, cause like Simon Sinek said in his book, you know, the magic is always in the hallways and how to keep people connected in a way where you still get that magic when it's remote is incredibly difficult to do.

And I'm always so in awe when I see people that does that, that does that well.

So you have a convention once a year, you have a convention once a year in person.

And then you do, you said you do weekly calls or?

Yeah.

Was it always the dealer model?

Did you come out of the box dealer model or were you guys just trying to make it go yourselves?

Now, it's funny, you mentioned Ruth Max University on that.

So obviously, you guys have a full training platform that's built out now.

If you mind me asking, what would you build that out on?

Okay, well, let's talk about you being removed.

You moved to Puerto Rico.

I'm guessing that had some tax advantage when you moved there.

Was that the only reason or?

What's the – are there a lot of expats there?

I mean, what's the – I mean – Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No.