Jonathan Goldstein

Oh, that's wonderful.

So you're thinking about your own absence from the perspective of those you love.

That's the mark of a superior human being.

That's not how I was thinking about it.

I was thinking more fuck all y'all.

No, no, no, I'm just kidding.

Yeah, we're doing our ninth season.

Yeah.

There was.

Well, the simplest is that I like having a job.

I found out when the show was canceled that I wasn't very good at not having a job.

I had been kind of on various deadlines.

Like before this, I had a show in Canada on the CBC for 11 years.

It had been just kind of like 20 years of deadlines.

Wiretap, yeah, that's right.

I found not having a job difficult.

And being back at it has given me a renewed appreciation.

But I love... I think I love... It is a way for me to feel things and live, interact with people and life in a way that, for me, is preferred, I guess.

There's a certain kind of safety about...

being alone in the attic studio a lot of the time and thinking things through in a way that I can't in real time.