Josh Pais

brilliant I was, if this other person was also brilliant and fits some vision, they're going to get the role.

Yeah.

Yes.

It's just you have to be a little crazy, you know, to go into this.

And, you know, and it's the thing with rejection is that.

I when you get rejected and this really applies to everyone, when when there's a rejection that happens, you don't get something that you really wanted.

It's really key to feel it like a bee sting.

feel the hurt, feel the, you know, if you have to curse, whatever, feel it and then be, and then clear the slate and be open as you can for the next, whatever it is that you're going to do.

And I've seen so many people, incredibly talented people have a series of rejections and they start to armor up and they start to go into situations where,

hiding on protecting themselves and, and not letting people see them because they, you know, and so it's so key to feel it.

And then it's, and, and, and it may not, and it's not going to be pleasant and then it's done.

And then you open your heart up again and, and, and experiment.

Yeah.

And and contract and withdraw.

You know, I went to acting school, thanks to my dad.

And then I returned to New York, where I grew up.

And I started auditioning.

And I had so much fear.

I had so much nervousness.

I had so much anxiety.