Katia

So what are the kind of personality traits that someone would say start adopting if they were living with or have an unhealthy nervous system, if they were in the sympathetic?

And when, sorry, when something terrible happens to a woman.

Freeze.

When I was reading and listening and doing my research and looking at your Instagram account, which is amazing, everybody should go and follow it, is that...

The wording that you use made me very emotional a lot.

And you use the word safety.

And I mean, safety is at the core of everything you do, right?

Can you explain, when I read about this co-regulation, it absolutely blew my mind.

I saw it on your page.

I saw you liked that.

Honestly, it really, really, because I had always kind of thought, I'd been taught slightly that...

You know, I'd learned it as codependency is unhealthy.

And I still sort of agree with that, to depend on somebody and be needy.

But this co-regulation, it was something I'd never heard of before.

Could you just explain what it is?

It's not so good either.

And somebody said to me, you were only being needy because your needs weren't being met.

Yeah.

And that I thought was quite an interesting way.

From that I hear, like, you needed her to just tell you it was going to be okay and you had the language.