Matt Clifford
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475 appearances
20 recordings
6 series
first heard Jan 2026
last heard 21 Aug
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You say, yeah, we should make a choice.
I suppose one more profound worry would be, do we have a choice?
Not in the sense that, you know, in some technical sense, of course, we have a choice.
But there is this sort of, you know, some of my, you know, much more, you know, sort of left-leaning friends would talk about, you know, the sort of techno-capitalism, you know, that actually there is no choice here.
We kind of have to do this at some level.
We are just- Have to do what?
We have to allow this to happen.
I think there is a point of view that actually the choice runs counter to all our incentives.
You've already brought one of the arguments that she's like, if we don't do it, someone else will do it.
That's true both within countries, between competitors, and it's true across countries.
Imagine that we self-deny the right to build nuclear power plants that build other nuclear power plants that spit on nuclear bombs.
China will do that.
Russia will do that.
And so there is this sense of like...
I'm really interested in like, where is that choice?
Now, I actually think that we are not star incentives and that virtue is a thing and we can make choices.
But what do you say to people that say, it sounds like you're describing something where actually there is no choice.
We have to do this.
But you're saying essentially that we have to figure out that coordination, both within the industry and maybe more importantly, and to Rory's previous skepticism, more challengingly with China.
And I think I'll get it wrong.
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