Mel Robbins

But long before they were teaching life design,

For decades, Bill and Dave, they were designing products and leading teams at startups and Fortune 100 companies across Silicon Valley.

Bill Burnett earned his bachelor's and master's degrees in product design at Stanford.

He worked at Apple in the early days designing their laptops.

He also worked on the team that designed the original Star Wars action figures.

Today, he's a professor in mechanical engineering and design at Stanford.

Dave Evans also earned his bachelor's and master's degrees in mechanical engineering at Stanford.

He also went on to work for Apple.

And while Bill was designing laptops, Dave was leading the team that created their very first computer mouse.

Dave was also the co-founder of the video game company Electronic Arts, which is one of the most successful gaming companies in the world.

If Madden

FIFA or Sims ring a bell?

Well, you're about to meet the co-founder who made it happen.

Together, Bill and Dave have authored multiple bestsellers, including the number one New York Times bestseller, Designing Your Life, and their latest blockbuster, How to Live a Meaningful Life.

So without further ado, please help me welcome Professor Bill Burnett and Professor Dave Evans to the Mel Robbins Podcast.

You two have been at the top of my list since I started this.

I have been waiting for this moment.

I hope you don't disappoint me.

No, I'm just kidding.

Oh my gosh.