Mel Robbins

to really design the next 14% section, whether it's from age 71 to 74, Dave, or I don't know how old you are, Bill, but a little younger.

We won't hold that against you.

But if you really think about it that way, that means you could create whatever you wanted that was meaningful to you.

Could you speak to somebody in their 20s who is feeling that sense of discouragement, which frankly is justified?

Yeah.

Given some of the factual research about the cost of living and changes that are happening and the headlines.

Yes.

You know, a lot of people feel like they don't even know what they want.

But there's this other exercise that you are world famous for called the Odyssey Plan.

Can you just walk the listener through a little bit?

Because it can help you see other lives in yourself and how to live a meaningful life to lean into.

So I want to make sure that you really got that.

So the way that you help yourself imagine different possibilities in your life is through the Odyssey planning, you ask yourself three questions.

What happens in my life if I change absolutely nothing?

Where am I for five years from now?

And assuming it goes well.

Yeah, well, I thank you for that.

Like, let's just assume it goes well.

Let's just assume it goes well.

What happens in five years?