Mia Freedman

Vibes, ideas, atmosphere, something casual, something fun.

This is my best recommendation.

You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast.

Sometimes when I'm feeling like I've got a mum, I'm like, darling, what would you like me to order you from Uber Eats?

Or what takeaway would you like me to pick?

And they're like, mum, I can actually just do it.

Stop trying to be a parent.

I did nothing.

I did nothing and nothing and nothing.

And it was...

You know how there's always people talk about that week between Christmas and New Year, you don't know what day it is and that it's just the most extraordinary feeling like going through a portal because for the rest of the year, there's no such luxury.

I had that and that is because I deliberately had no arrangements beforehand.

Because I realized that for me, rest is about social rest.

And it's also about diary rest.

If I have to be somewhere, even if it's meeting a girlfriend for coffee or going out to dinner with friends or visiting my parents.

That's just another thing.

And I feel like I'm so overscheduled during my days that the only way I can properly relax is to just have that unspooling of time.

I don't think I did.

Like there were times when it was like three or four days and I hadn't left the house.

We used to go to Byron Bay every Christmas New Year at this time.