Michael Chernow

So I was constantly sharpening my EI skills, right?

Like I knew that if I wanted to go to my friend's house and sleep over because I'd much rather sleep there than sleep at home, I needed my friend's parents to like me.

And I remember so clearly in first grade, sitting at Ross Delafield's house in his apartment, and they had dinner around the table.

And I was invited over to have dinner.

And I had never had dinner around the table before.

My family never once did that.

And I was like, wow, this is cool.

Like they're all having dinner together talking about their day.

It's like, I want more of this.

And I said, man, I got to figure out how to get Danny, which is his dad.

And I forgot his mom's name.

I got to figure out how to get Danny to like me.

So I invite me to sleep over so I can do this more.

And it just like that sort of started to hone this skill for me of like understanding people, understanding where I...

would be successful when it comes to developing relationships.

And I know it sounds crazy as like a first grade, but this is like really the beginning of my entrepreneurial journey of connecting with humans at scale.

I mean, I think that's kind of like what my superpower passion is.

Yes, I do.

I had a podcast before the Creatures of Habit podcast called Born or Made.

And it's because I'm incredibly curious to know if Nick Bear was born with the ability to do what you've done or if you were made over time through, you know, intentional.