Michael Chernow

I mean, I do think it's probably a combination of both.

It's a combination of both when you get to the level that you're at.

But,

I do think it's very, very, I do believe that there is an inherent component to it.

I agree.

And so when I was a little kid, if I had toys that I wasn't using anymore, they didn't like collect dust in the corner of my room.

I would ask my older sister to come downstairs with me and I lived in Manhattan.

So I lived on a busy street in Manhattan.

I would set up a blanket at like five, six years old, sheet, a blanket.

I'd lay it out on the corner of 87th Street and 2nd Avenue and I'd put all my toys out on it and I'd sell them for a buck.

And I got like, once I got that, like the taste of blood, you know, of like making a transaction at a young age, I was just all in.

I wanted to, I was like collecting cards, collecting comics, going to the comic book store, buying a $5 grab bag of comics, taking a comic out that I wanted to read.

And then standing in front of the store, this young kid, I'd be selling comics for a buck.

You know, like I just always had this make, do, create, grow mindset.

Anyway, I can relate to that.

Yeah, like I just felt like this... I was like, it was a good feeling when I was able to like have a win like that, you know, at a young age.

And so I also gravitated towards sports.

So I was an athlete as a kid and I loved winning that way.

You know, like I really was like, I became very passionate about hockey.

I played a lot of hockey, whether it was street hockey, I ended up getting into ice hockey.