Michael Pollan
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But before he got interested in psilocybin as a therapeutic aid, he was an expert on caffeine.
I was interviewing him and he said, you know, to understand your relationship to any drug, you have to give it up.
for a period of time because you can't think about it objectively while you're hooked, essentially.
So, okay, I guess I better do this.
And I was writing an audio book on caffeine.
So I gave up caffeine for three months.
It was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
Sounds brutal.
It was.
I was a daily coffee drinker, but I also drank a lot of green tea.
And the first few days were hell.
Some people have flu-like symptoms.
I didn't have this.
I just, I felt like I was jet lagged or something.
Did you get the headaches?
I got the headaches, definitely.
And I was kind of miserable and I had no focus at all.
It was really unpleasant.
And I was undergoing withdrawal.
Wow.