Michael Pollan

I know. That's an amazing interview. Yes.

I know. That's an amazing interview. Yes.

I know. That's an amazing interview. Yes.

So he was doing a study, he hadn't published it yet, giving psychedelics, psilocybin specifically, magic mushrooms in pill form, to people who had cancer diagnoses. And I interviewed about a dozen of them. And they told me stories of personal- May I just tell people who he was?

So he was doing a study, he hadn't published it yet, giving psychedelics, psilocybin specifically, magic mushrooms in pill form, to people who had cancer diagnoses. And I interviewed about a dozen of them. And they told me stories of personal- May I just tell people who he was?

So he was doing a study, he hadn't published it yet, giving psychedelics, psilocybin specifically, magic mushrooms in pill form, to people who had cancer diagnoses. And I interviewed about a dozen of them. And they told me stories of personal- May I just tell people who he was?

Yes, he really got what's called the psychedelic renaissance started with his research.

Yes, he really got what's called the psychedelic renaissance started with his research.

Yes, he really got what's called the psychedelic renaissance started with his research.

Yeah, in 2006. And that really launched the whole revival of psychedelic research, which had been a big thing in the 50s and 60s. I didn't realize it. But in the 50s, LSD was considered a wonder drug. There were six international conferences on LSD alone. There were- In the 50s. In the 50s, up till 1965, from 50 to, yeah.

Yeah, in 2006. And that really launched the whole revival of psychedelic research, which had been a big thing in the 50s and 60s. I didn't realize it. But in the 50s, LSD was considered a wonder drug. There were six international conferences on LSD alone. There were- In the 50s. In the 50s, up till 1965, from 50 to, yeah.

Yeah, in 2006. And that really launched the whole revival of psychedelic research, which had been a big thing in the 50s and 60s. I didn't realize it. But in the 50s, LSD was considered a wonder drug. There were six international conferences on LSD alone. There were- In the 50s. In the 50s, up till 1965, from 50 to, yeah.

So we think of psychedelics- And then it just got banned and also people said- Yeah, the drug war. to the drug war. Yeah, and President Nixon who starts the drug war said that the drug war, there's a quote that he gave to John Ehrlichman, his domestic policy advisor, that we're going after LSD to get the hippies and cannabis to get the blacks. And those were his two enemies.

So we think of psychedelics- And then it just got banned and also people said- Yeah, the drug war. to the drug war. Yeah, and President Nixon who starts the drug war said that the drug war, there's a quote that he gave to John Ehrlichman, his domestic policy advisor, that we're going after LSD to get the hippies and cannabis to get the blacks. And those were his two enemies.

So we think of psychedelics- And then it just got banned and also people said- Yeah, the drug war. to the drug war. Yeah, and President Nixon who starts the drug war said that the drug war, there's a quote that he gave to John Ehrlichman, his domestic policy advisor, that we're going after LSD to get the hippies and cannabis to get the blacks. And those were his two enemies.

And that's what the drug war was really about. And so anyway, there had been all this very promising research. LSD was being used to treat alcoholism with a lot of success. So I didn't know this whole backstory. I thought of psychedelics as a 60s thing, but actually it's really a 50s thing.

And that's what the drug war was really about. And so anyway, there had been all this very promising research. LSD was being used to treat alcoholism with a lot of success. So I didn't know this whole backstory. I thought of psychedelics as a 60s thing, but actually it's really a 50s thing.

And that's what the drug war was really about. And so anyway, there had been all this very promising research. LSD was being used to treat alcoholism with a lot of success. So I didn't know this whole backstory. I thought of psychedelics as a 60s thing, but actually it's really a 50s thing.

And there was this promising research that gets shut down and we lose like 30 years of research that is just now resumed.

And there was this promising research that gets shut down and we lose like 30 years of research that is just now resumed.