Mike Israetel

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Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth · 2595: Mike Israetel Unplugged (Explicit Content) · 12 May 2025 podcast

A hundred percent. He's completely compliant. He's best genetics, best youth, best everything, best drugs. Of course, of course you're going to get in shape. But when you work with a 45 year old mother of two, that's also a wall street broker and she's like Jewish and a dog shit, fucking genetics, no offense, Jews. Then like, if you get her to lose 10 pounds and keep it off, you know,

You're going to have to figure some shit out. The way I learned about basically people fucking their metabolism up through dieting is with regular female clients in New York City. It was not with competitors. And you think like, how can someone have the amount of diet fatigue a typical competitor has after a 16-week prep in just eight weeks of dieting? Genetics, man, it's a motherfucker.

But you learn a lot working with people like that.

One thing is getting them to weight train in a way that builds muscle. It's just to alter their physique in a way they didn't think was imaginable. But what they're after is to be leaner and shapelier. And the way you do that fundamentally is by losing fat and building muscle. And cause no offense to orange theory. A lot of that cardio bullshit, it just doesn't do a whole lot of that.

In addition to that, cardio doesn't really do a whole lot of much for weight loss because your body just reduces your energy expenditure concomitantly and you just don't get a lot of it. It's healthy for you. If your diet is very set in stone, more cardio can help you lose a little bit more weight, which is meaningful for competitors and stuff, but it's not this big thing. Probably one of the

biggest variables is diet control. It means knowing what you're putting in your body by tracking slash programming what you put in your body, and then maneuvering from that. Because people will say, oh, I can't lose weight. I'm like, well, how much do you eat on average? Like, well, I don't know. Well, who the fuck? No shit.

Like, how theoretically would we be able to help you if you don't even know what's going in your body? So Getting these people to eat four meals a day of high protein and some fucking veggies, knowing what they're eating, and then going, okay, we have your maintenance. Now we're going to crank it down by 500. We're going to have you weight train. We're going to track your steps.

All of a sudden, fat mounts off, muscle builds. Because you're actually doing the thing for the first time. It's like people are trying to build the Lego spaceship or school bus or whatever they got, but they don't look at the instructions on the fucking back of the box. They're like, it's not a school bus. No shit. Do you ever try looking at the instructions?

You're like, well, I thought I could just figure it out. Well, that clearly didn't fucking work. And here's the thing. If you're some kind of genius savant, maybe you can figure it out.

The big irony here is that as a busy mom who doesn't get enough sleep, who's diet is shit, and she's in her fucking late 40s, and there's no one in her family that had very good genetics to begin with, she is working completely at a deficit on all of these things. And so for her to get in remotely good shape,

often requires a level of intricacy and effort and organization of diet and training that's like damn near competitor level. And the thing that, you know, that makes sense once you think about it, like, well, yeah, if you have everything going against you, you're going to have to do your best to, you know, to be as good as possible.

So that is always kind of a little bit of a shock to people when they're like, wait, I have to do all the shit to get in shape? Like, yeah. And another thing that's crazy to me is, This is understandable, especially with tech getting as good as it's getting. With tech getting as good as it's getting, you just expect things to work.

If ChatGPT doesn't get back to me with a perfectly polite, incredibly, incredibly intelligent answer in three seconds, I think there's something wrong with the internet, and I start getting fucking pissed. And that is understandable because tech sets such a high bar.

But a lot of people who have everything going against them, not so great genetics, a lifetime of doing nothing about it, they're in real bad shape to begin with, they have tons of stress, very little sleep, no organized diet, they somehow think that when they see a personal trainer twice a week, And they take like one tip in their diet, like just eat more protein, Karen. Okay.

That they're somehow going to like accomplish the body of their dreams. And I had so many people tell me like, well, like, so my goal physique is like Jennifer Garner. I'm like a perfect angel. Are you out of your fucking mind? Someone who's 27 years old and trains fucking three hours a day to look perfect because that's her job is to look perfect. She's elite genetics.

And as a private chef, that's low key your goal. Like how many people come into like a basketball camp and they're like, I don't want to be LeBron. Okay. Like Steph Curry. That'd be great. Could you get me there? Like, no, you delusional asshole.

But with the way that the service industry works and the fact that you go to a restaurant and you're like, I want a perfect steak and they give it to you in 15 minutes, I think you get used to the shit. And then you're like, I just want, you go to a personal trainer. Like, I just want amazing results in almost no time. And you're like, no bitch, that's not how the fuck it works.

It works by you pounding it in and being ultra consistent for months and getting decent results. And if you think you can do it better somewhere else, be my guest. Now, good news, combination of these weight loss drugs we already have now and these crazy muscle building drugs coming up, hey, the standards are going to elevate. but we're not there yet. And it's just going to take a lot of work.

And so one of the things that always baffled me working with regular people is most of them are dope, but some of them come with these absolutely ridiculous ideas about what's going to happen and a total unwillingness to work for it with all the odds stacked against them. And it's just, to me, it was always kind of like, I was pretty good at real talking people.

We're like a polite way, but you know, a little curt, a little humorous. I always be like, look, you want big changes. I'm here to tell you that JLo is unusual. Yes. They're like, well, I guess. Yeah. So having her as your goal is kind of fucking ridiculous. They're like, I guess like, okay, so let's just try to get 10 pounds off of you in 12 weeks and put on a few pounds of muscle.

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