Mike Israetel
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5 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard May 2025
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If you put in half a week's worth of super physiological testosterone at one time, your mood for the next several hours is curious.
Most people feel something, but it's probably a normally distributed thing. population of experiences where some people just can't tell. Some people feel something for sure that they can describe, and some people have panic attacks and will never use again, or they are driven to extreme violent thoughts and extreme sexual thoughts and actions. And those folks are quite rare, but they do happen.
So there's a large distribution about which people can have experiences, but I'd say the median experience is the easiest way to understand the average effect of a high degree of anabolic steroids and for simplicity, testosterone. The psychology is to imagine that what is the average psychological proclivity of a female? What is the average psychological proclivity of a male?
Different in many regards. And then you move the needle over one notch into a magical new gender called enhanced male. And you just typically exhibit more male-like patterns of thought and behavior than even males do. But males compared to females is the best way to figure that one out because if you're like,
just know what a male pattern of behavior is like because you're a male, you're like, what the hell is it like to be more like me? Is it everything about me or it's not everything? We actually just had a recent video on the RP Strength channel. I think it's called Roid Rage is Real. We talk about like that steroids don't accentuate every quality you have, just the more masculine qualities.
So what are the most masculine qualities? Again, this hits everyone a little bit differently, but on average, you become quieter. Men typically are not as expressive as women. You come to show fewer facial expressions of emotion. You don't process other people's emotions as well. You can't fine tune what they feel as much and you don't care as much. Less empathy.
Way less empathy, all the way to similar levels of empathy, but on average, definitely less. And you become more likely to be irritable. You become more likely to have anger and aggressive sorts of thoughts. You become more attuned.
to the dominance hierarchy in general, and you become someone who thinks more about where you stack up in the dominance hierarchy in a way that you take affronts and slights more poorly than otherwise. So if someone on social media says you're a bad person, if you're not on a lot of testosterone, you're like, I'm just having a bad day. That's okay. We all have a bad day.
We need to rage out on someone. If you're on a lot of testosterone, you're more likely to be like, I wonder if he'd say that to my face. I wonder if he would be real quiet around me because he would know that I'm not someone to be messed with. weird, weird thoughts like that. Women almost never have thoughts like that. Men have regular thoughts like that in the right context.
People on steroids have more thoughts like that in almost every context than on average they would like to have. Another one is you become linguistically less expressive and your fluidity of communication falls. So a lot of times when someone is using high levels of anabolic steroids in a relationship and that person happens to be male, the degree of communicative throughput falls substantially.
Just generally not good for most relationships. Another one is sex drive. It's difficult for women to appreciate what the male sex drive is like on a quantitative and qualitative level. Both of those tend to magnify, especially if you're not bringing your estrogen down. You bring estrogen low enough, you don't even remember what the hell sex is for or why people are even in it, that sort of thing.
But if you have a lot of androgens, a lot of estrogen, the hunger, the thirst becomes very annoying.
That's left alone? It depends. It depends on a few things. One is different people respond differently, both physique and psychology, to high levels of estrogen. High levels of estrogen for some people are like swimming in a pool of magical clouds, and they love it. And their physique looks great. They get nice and watery. Their joints feel amazing. Their recovery is awesome.
Their sleep is awesome. Sex drive is awesome. Everything's great. For some other people, they get a lot of estrogen, and it actually prevents them from getting good sleep at higher levels. They're water buffalo bloated, and they can't even see their abs anymore, even though they're 8% body fat. And they get mood swings, all this crazy stuff. And so it really is very individually dependent.
The other thing is what we're learning in evidence-based approach to anabolic steroid utilization and performance-enhancing drug utilization, it's called the safer use model.
Probably the biggest promulgator of it is a gentleman named Joe Jeffrey in the United Kingdom, super, super expert, exceptional bodybuilding coach, great bodybuilders in their own right, who just reads literature all day long. And folks like him tend to espouse that probably the best way to manage estrogen is
is to use some combination of exogenous drugs that are androgens themselves to get the estrogen level you have the best notable metrics at, how you feel, how you look, how your blood work is, health, et cetera. So here's an example. You take 1,000 milligrams of testosterone. I'm still wrapping my head around this. It actually goes into your thigh in a needle.
You don't have to wrap your head around. So it's intense. It's a lot. You take 1,000 milligrams of testosterone, and that comes with a concomitant aromatization, so you have a lot of estrogen. Some people, they feel totally great. For some people, it's too much. For those who it's too much estrogen, they might be able to take 500 milligrams of testosterone and then 500 milligrams of primobolin.
Primobolin is a synthetic anabolic androgenic steroid developed in, I think, the 60s and 70s. And it's designed not really to convert into estrogen hardly at all. Other steroids like it are master on. They not only don't convert into estrogen, but they actually antagonize estrogen conversion for the testosterone you're shooting in to some extent.
And so if someone's like way too much estrogen for them, they can do a 50-50 split of testosterone and primobolin. so that now they get all the good estrogen from testosterone, but not too much of it, but they get most of that anabolic drive from the rest of the primobolin, but without any more estrogen addition. It could be 250 testosterone and 750 milligrams of primo. It can be 750 test.
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