Mike Israetel
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard May 2025
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and then you quit all the steroids and now you're back down to 170, you could walk around and maintain that 170 on a normal secretion of testosterone or normal TRT. You would have never been able to do that without the steroids. So it's a permanent advantage. If you've ever been hypermuscular from steroids, you will probably never be as small as you would have normally been ever again.
That's a big deal, very big deal in Olympic sports because you can just kind of hide out. Don't get into the doping pool. Crank it. Get into the doping pool. You drug free, but you have muscle that'll never leave you. That's a massive advantage. Yeah, it sure sounds like it. Not that anyone ever does that.
So my calculation has many fold variables that go into it. Some of them include my blood work. I get regular blood work. I always have. I did it before I got on. I did it during. I still do it all the time. It would be funny if I croaked in a few weeks and then you released the podcast. This was going to sound hilarious. It's all statistics and probability. Please do release it though.
I've got bad genetics for all sorts of things, but I have damn good genetics for health resilience. So I've never actually had blood work a single time that was like, do you need to stop? The last time I had blood work, I was on... 1500 milligrams total. Gnarly stuff. Trenbolone acetate. The whole works. My lipids, my overall total cholesterol was 79 or something. Total cholesterol? Yeah.
Now, mind you, I'm at like 7% body fat, and leanness is a humongous variable for health. Humongous. I can get into all that if you want, but humongous. I'm on blood pressure medication.
Absolutely. Humongous variable that I've always been controlling. My wife is a medical doctor, so we don't play games. Always checking the blood pressure, always making sure it's on the low end.
I'm currently on 250 milligrams a week.
And that's my sports TRT, we call it. Super TRT.
I took double the blood pressure medication roughly at that dose. And I titrated it so that it would always be below the normative values for best health, 120 over 70, that sort of thing. When I took the most drugs, I was almost always in a fat loss phase because you're just not eating much food and you're very lean and you're doing lots of physical activity.
Those are all hugely antagonistic variables to high blood pressure. And so if I was massing and weighed 280, I would have to take the kitchen sink of blood pressure meds. And it would still be worth it to do that. If I can make a public service announcement, it just doesn't matter why your blood pressure is high. Fucking control it with drugs. And then look to lifestyle or whatever or whatever.
So many people are totally backwards on this, where they're like, oh man, I want to clean up my lifestyle so that I can get off these blood pressure meds. Why? Why? We're what, Gen 9 of blood pressure meds? They don't even have side effects anymore. If I'm taking them or not taking them, I can't tell.
And so if I take a pill that reduces almost every single health malady and extends my lifespan by a generation... Why the hell wouldn't I do that? And it's so funny when you get this from steroid people. They're like, dude, you're doing Trenbolone that was manufactured in a bathtub in China, but you're not going to take Novo Nordisk's best blood pressure drug? Are you insane?
The answer is yes, of course. Making sure blood pressure is good, making sure all the lipid values and things like that are very good.
I mean, my lipid values probably aren't as good when I'm bulking up, but I'm also on fewer drugs then, so they're not crazy. The last time I've ever had a total cholesterol of over 200 was when I was 13 years old and I had spent a whole summer playing video games, being totally inactive, and I was a portly child. And it was like 202. And they're like, bro. And I was like, oh.
And then I turned 14 and began to do sports. Why were they checking blood on the 13-year-old? Basic screening panel. I think maybe it was sports or something. I don't know. Yeah. They do like basic lipid panel for like a lot of people. And so I just remember, I can't ever forget that number because I was like, oh, oh, I'm in the red on something.
Like you're not supposed to be in the red on something. But for me, my body was always really responsive to body fat levels. If I have a high body fat, I'm probably not an amazing health. If I'm a low body fat, I can take a lot of steroids to the face and still be relatively okay on the numbers. Now there's lots of stuff we can't measure.
So my body has taken a considerable amount of damage over the years from anabolic androgenic steroids. And what do you think some of those damages are? Cardiovascular damage. No doubt my left ventricular wall is probably larger than it should be. I have not had an echo. So I've had plenty of echoes. Most of them were quite some time ago and they're all great. The overall inflammatory exposure.
to the crazy training volumes, stress levels, and independent psychological stress that the anabolic steroids voiced upon me, no doubt has been bad for brain and bad for everything else, and so on down the line. Luckily, I was smart enough at the beginning to always control my blood pressure, and that's a huge, huge killer for people on drugs. I always paid attention to lipid values.
That's another huge killer, and I just really got lucky there, and I eat healthy almost all the time. That's a big deal.
So no, I just think about your prostate. Yeah. Nobody lost. Nobody found on that one. I never cared to check that. No doubt has taken a hell of a beating over the years. And so while I did it relatively intelligently, I probably did too much. I mostly didn't use super high doses by bodybuilding standards, like kind of only a few times used high doses.
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