Mike Israetel

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Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth · 2595: Mike Israetel Unplugged (Explicit Content) · 12 May 2025 podcast

Him and I were working for a fitness company in New York back in the day. I'm not going to say which company it is, but... Um, they were basically like, uh, it was a training company that had regular people come in and you train them as a private personal training studio. And the, the, the boss was like, here's a worksheet. You can give them a little thing for nutrition.

It's like a little mini diet. He's like, I'm going to tell you what's going on with diet. These people all are going to tell you that they eat in the following day. They're going to say they wake up and they have some eggs or some egg whites for breakfast. Um, and maybe some oatmeal. They're going to say they either skip lunch or they have a turkey sandwich or a salad with chicken.

And they're going to say they have some fish and some brown rice and maybe a glass of wine for dinner. And they're all fucking liars. And I was like, holy shit, this is the real world. I was just out of college. I was like, god damn, he's talking about real people. And the thing is, he was a mean, curmudgeonly Jewish man. But he wasn't wrong.

And so 1,400 calories is some shit like on their good days, they 100% eat. And fuck, man, they might have six good days out of the week. But when that cycle hits of the fucking time of the month, or just like a fucking, there's like a Netflix special on the real story behind the Friends series, they don't want you to know. And it's a five pound fucking episode series.

You're going to go and you're going to basically get Ben and Jerry right in front of you. And you're going to tag team the motherfuckers. You're going to have four fucking pints of ice cream. You're going to have eight cookies. You're going to cry a lot. Guess what gets the tears out? Lasagna works every time. You have fucking lasagna. You have pizza.

You're so starved out from that whole week of dieting that you're like an insane person. And yeah, you can do damage. There are a lot of documentaries about how sumo wrestlers eat that typically people are like, oh my god, I can't believe they eat this many calories. They'll be like, have you been around a post-dieted sorority girl in college?

I've seen that bitch suck up 12,000 calories in a matter of hours. No fucking problem. And so if you average 12,000 calories on Saturday with 1,400 calories the other six days, that maths. Because then they're like eating like 2,500 calories a fucking day and that they're not losing weight.

And then if you get them to train and you put on a good deal of muscle and you get them to move more, be more physically active – and weight train, which is more calorie burn, then yeah, 2,650 is not what they're eating. And they're like, oh my God, it's fucking magic.

But because you made them eat more healthy food through the week, they don't have this temptation to go eat the fucking kitchen sink every Saturday. And then their average really is 2,700 calories. And it really does work like that because you're right. It does the math and the muscle is not enough to offset it. Now, some of them are so fucking starved down. Their metabolisms are actually lower.

When you feed them more food, they actually burn even a couple hundred calories extra, but it's not a thousand calories. And so between the metabolism resetting up a little bit, the teeny effect you get from muscle and the 80% of them just not gorging themselves every fucking other meal sometimes or every few days,

That is what explains most of the variance because I've dealt with clients like that. Sometimes you hear the darndest fucking shit. Like I had a woman be like, I eat like 1200 calories and I can't lose any weight. I'm like, no, like a thermodynamics is undefeated. And I'm like, just tell me about your day. And it turns out she was like walking by, like she worked from home.

She was walking by her living room and like getting her hand into the fucking pecans and almonds mix and just jamming it down her throat like four times a day. And not counting that. Bitch, that's 300 calories every time. Are you out of your fucking mind? I had another client, no offense, former clients. She was like, I can't lose weight. I've been eating 800 calories.

She wasn't counting fruit juice and she had it all day long. And so if the question is, are your clients bullshitting themselves low key with good intentions or did like the... Founders of modern physics misunderstand thermodynamics, man, you know, unless that bitch builds a fucking gravity canceling spaceship and is like, see, thermodynamics was wrong.

I'm going to believe the fact that she's just cramming hot dogs behind my back, which is, you know, like it's fucking sobering, but it's probably true.

For sure. And it's like, especially the part where they've been dieting for so long that their energy expenditure subconsciously is just way lower is a big part. It's not the biggest part because I think misreporting intakes the biggest. But in some cases, that reduced energy expenditure can be the biggest part. And in many cases, it is a large part.

And so not chronically dieting anymore, giving your body enough food to just kind of breathe free can be hundreds of calories difference. And I mean, like, it's really fucked. It's really sad because you can have a whole six-month period where you were starving yourself and you weighed 132 pounds. And then after four months of reverse dieting, you're eating, like –

500 calories more food per day on average. And you weigh 134 stable, but you're like even the same body fat. Cause you built back more muscle. What a rip off to think, man, for months and months and months, I was needlessly starving myself, which is a big deal once. That's why I like it. I think, I don't know. I think we made up this term, but. At RP, we made up a term called diet fatigue.

Months of dieting fatigues you in a big way, and it resets your body and your metabolism to work in a way that is very much against you. If you reverse diet intelligently out of that, you can have amazing, amazing results because you are in a state of incredible fatigue. And a lot of people just think that's how it is. And a lot of people live their lives like that, like supermodels and shit.

They're always starving because for them, it's psychological. For them, if I allow myself to eat more food, I'm failing. And I'm just going to be a fat bitch again like I was in seventh grade and no one's going to love me. And how the hell am I supposed to get free cocaine if I don't look like a model anymore? I'm trying to pay for my Coke? That shit is expensive.

A hundred percent. And also most of the data is on recreationally trained undergraduates who are not diet fatigued. And so, you know, if you have someone diet down like 3% of their body fat and and you show that reverse dieting doesn't make a big difference, well, yeah, no shit. But if they diet down 12% of their body fat, you may see some very different results.

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