Paul Eastwick

So if anything, like men need them a touch more than women.

I think this is worth keeping in mind.

I'm glad you asked this one.

This one is shocking.

The answer is 1%.

1%.

Yeah, and they do this with these fascinating genetic studies.

They go back well before birth control with these studies, and they look to see, basically, does your Y chromosome match the person who shares your last name with the assumption that the last name is passed through fathers?

And in 1% of the cases, it doesn't match.

It's a very clever way to capture paternity over centuries, right?

that these folks have devised.

So yeah, 1%, way less than birds, way less than other purportedly monogamous mammals.

Cheating happens, but it's not as common as we think.

I do think it was conducted elsewhere in the world, but that's a very good point.

Yeah, that's complicated.

Yeah, it's true.

And I think that's probably just because there are some folks out there who, yeah, higher in psychopathy, higher in Machiavellianism, right?

That's like you're being very manipulative.

Yeah, the dark triad stuff, yeah.

Exactly.