Phil Houston
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130 appearances
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1 series
first heard Mar 2025
last heard May 2025
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Well, if you look at what she's saying, I mean, there's evidence and testimony that, you know, he punched, you know, Cassie in the stump. This seems like a pattern, a specific pattern of behavior. It's almost like his criminal signature. And there are ways under the rules of evidence to get in hearsay if the declarant is unavailable, if there is like sufficient indications of evidence.
believability and truthfulness and veracity when the hearsay declarant is unavailable. And unavailability might mean a refusal to testify or the fact that she's under subpoena and she's just not cooperating and showing up to court. So what we don't know is strategically how they're going to offer this evidence, what specific evidence they're going to offer it,
and then under what theory of the federal rules of evidence they're going to offer it. So it's possible the jury could still hear some of that, but we'll just have to wait and see how they do it.
Yeah, sure. There's a lot of, you know, and circumstantial evidence has put a lot of people in prison in the United States over the years, and it will continue to do so. So you put all this together and it does paint a very damning picture. But here's my concern.
If somebody violated the gag order, what if this judge says, OK, we're not going to let the jury hear this because that's going to be my remedy for violating my gag order? It could very well happen that because of this leak, somebody who's a guilty murderer, well, free.
Well, my instinct is similar to yours. I don't suspect it was any of the attorneys related to the prosecution team. Law enforcement, as you mentioned, does tend to be leakier as a general rule. Of course, we don't know until the investigation reveals who the leaker is in this case. But my money would be that it's somewhere in the sort of investigative team on the law enforcement side.
But here's the problem. The judge is between a rock and a hard place because on the one hand, somebody clearly violated this gag order, and there's got to be a penalty for that. On the other hand, if the judge completely guts the prosecution's case and excludes all of this very, very powerful evidence –
that remedy would be very extreme because it probably would lead to the acquittal of someone who killed probably four people. So the judge is not going to want to necessarily do that. So the judge is not going to throw out the indictment. That's not going to happen either.
I think what's going to happen is they're going to find out who did this and they're going to throw somebody in jail for contempt of court. And there may be other less severe things that are related directly to the prosecution's evidentiary presentation. But if we had to guess, I'm going to say that they're not going to completely throw this evidence out of the case.
It can be used, but somebody is going to pay a price for this leak.
You know, what this looks like to me is he's maybe becoming, maybe by design, maybe he wants to become the next Ted Bundy, because why else would he even consider buying another knife like that? Because is he trying to duplicate? Is he trying to do it again? That's what makes this whole thing so really, really frightening. It's obvious this man was disturbed. The
If you look at the individual parts, maybe the pictures of the college girls in bikinis, if you just had that in a vacuum, maybe it would not mean much. But when you put all of it together, I think it really paints an overwhelming picture. picture of a guilty person, a guilty mind, and quite frankly, a very, very disturbed, deranged mind.
This is an individual who, in my opinion, knew what he was. He knew that he had psychiatric issues. He knew he had maybe sociopathic
tendencies and he was researching it and ultimately got to the point where he just felt like he was going to have to just act out on these things that may have been fantastical in his brain but it became to the point where he just needed to go ahead and do it and that's what's so frightening is that there are people like that out there as somebody who does criminal defense um
Well, I don't believe that he was brilliant. I think that the things that you just talked about showed mistakes that were honestly very amateurish. I mean, who doesn't know that everybody's got a ring camera? And who doesn't know that law enforcement can't see Everything that you do on your smartphone, including what you buy and look at on Amazon.
So it's like he planned this to a point, but he was sloppy. He did not plan it as much as maybe the perfect criminal would need to have planned it. I think he was honestly not as smart as he thinks he is. He's not as smart as he would like others to believe that he is. And he made fun. foolish mistakes.
And these are the things that ultimately are going to send him to prison for the rest of his life. But one thing we can tell from all this is that he planned this. He put a lot of thought into it, and that shows he's got an abandoned and malignant heart, one that's not capable of being rehabilitated, and there's nothing else that makes sense other than for him to never breathe free air again.
This was a pre-planned, premeditated, horrific killing, snuffing out the lives of four young Americans who had everything in their future just waiting for them, and he stole it from them.
Well, the reason that a lawyer would file something like a letter in the actual record, you know, the court's records in the case, is because they want it to become public record. And so at least to that extent, I can kind of see where the judge is coming from. But look, there's only really two main reasons why you would ever withdraw a subpoena. And Viva's right.
Nobody likes getting these things. And just because you got one doesn't mean you've been harassed or anybody's abusing anything. But there's two reasons I can think of to... main reasons to withdraw a subpoena. One is you believe that a motion to quash might be successful and you don't want to have egg on your face. That doesn't seem to be the case.
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