Phil Houston
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130 appearances
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1 series
first heard Mar 2025
last heard May 2025
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These lawyers have not shied away from contentious litigation, so I doubt that would be the reason. So we're left with the other reason is that they got what they needed, or most of it, through some other way. And of course, now we know about Taylor Swift's father. So it all makes perfectly good sense to me now why this subpoena was withdrawn, because they've clearly got what they want.
Now, whether or not any of that's actually going to be admissible in any trial, well, that remains to be seen, because pretrial subpoenas, this is all discovery. It doesn't have to lead to evidence that's directly admissible, but it can be in the search for evidence that would be admissible at a trial. So the discovery rules are pretty broad.
They have the right to go on something of a fishing expedition. And I think they simply got the fish that they were seeking.
Thank you very much. It's my pleasure. Always happy to be with both of you guys.
Megan, if we want the outcome that we can actually get him to open up even a little bit, you and Bill need to stay together. And with you ringing the doorbell, Bill standing slightly behind you, if he's outside... Then you approach him, Megan, you would approach him first. Bill would stay back. Bill needs to keep you within near arms reach distance.
If we want to get information from him, we need his resistance at the lowest level possible. And I believe, Bill, you need to give her the highest level of safety and security possible.
I loved your introduction. Hi, I'm Megyn Kelly. I'd love to have a chat with you. And here's the reason I'd love to have a chat with you. We have been working on the disappearance of Lisa for over 10 years now. And as a result of that, we know a whole lot more than we've ever known to include the players that are involved. And that's why we're talking to you today. We want to get your side.
I would not mention investigate or investigation. I wouldn't mention case, anything that has consequences associated with it. You just want to have a talk. in a conversation. We call it a transition statement in the interrogation world, because what it does is it signals to that individual that everything that they have done to try and pull this off, to be successful, has failed.
And that's when you would get in with the first question. What was your role in the disappearance? It's a presumptive question. A question you want to make sure if you can get in on camera is the question about the telephone. Is there any reason your fingerprints are on those telephones that went missing that night?
You keep talking. John, you're a smart guy. You know that at some point this was going to come to this. You can help resolve this whole matter that has caused pain and anguish to the parents and to their family. We're not here to argue with you or call you names or anything. And what you're doing is
you're limiting or minimizing the amount of questions because every time he answers the lie, your job gets twice as hard to get that admission. But if you could right off the bat can get him to listen to you, you've got a shot.
I understand, Bill, but I think you may have a chance to get him to open up a little bit.
Without trying to buddy up or cozy up to him. You don't want him to make a denial. Once they deny, that really makes your job difficult. And so when you see them start to make a denial, what you want to do is say their name. Whether people realize it or not, one good way to interrupt a person, stop them from talking, is to say their name.
Just instinctively, people shut up when they hear their name. It's a three-step process. You say, John, hang on. It's a control phrase. John, hang on for a minute, okay? And then I want to hear your side of it. And you've got your hand up is the third. So John, the control phrase and the hand up. And it's not in your face. It's almost like a defensive gesture.
Yes. Stop the denials at all costs, no matter what happens throughout the whole thing. Just keep saying, John, let's talk about the truth. It's not easy. I mean, if it were easy, we'd have a ton more confessions than we have. Mm-hmm. But people do break, and they break at moments for reasons we don't understand sometimes. This could be it.
Bill, I'm going to do something I've never- I'm happily wrong.
You're absolutely wrong. We do this all the time.
I am not anticipating a full confession by any stretch. But if you got, for example, an acknowledgement that he had those phones and he did something with them and so forth, that's tantamount to a confession.
Bill, I talk to terrorists who are far, far more conditioned not to give up information, and they talk. They talk if you approach them in the right manner.
Okay. You could say, John, look, this is not about lawyers. We're not here to bring harm to anybody, including yourself. We just want the truth. And you have a very critical piece of information that will help this get resolved.
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