Ray Gutierrez

What gets you out of bed?

But I love what I do.

Yeah, yeah.

You would think, like, we hear these stories within our tribes, but one of my favorite stories is Tim Burton himself.

Of course, it's going the opposite way because it's in Australia, obviously.

You know, he was a Disney animator, and he...

So how does one get into dirt?

Drew a certain way and it wasn't the Disney way.

What's your origin story?

Yeah, an opportunity arose, presented itself in the darkness.

Were you walking to school and then you tripped and fell into a bag of dirt?

He basically said, screw that.

And then yada, yada, yada, Nightmare Before Christmas.

Like, how does this happen?

Do you have a brick and mortar?

And then he basically created his look, his energy.

Is there a place I can go to and buy said treats?

Yes.

So I'm assuming the front of the shop is nice and cozy while the back is massive and large because you've got all this stuff that can go bad.

Talk about your tribe, your look, your energy and how folks are gravitating towards you and how you're actually keeping less than quality clients away because they just don't get it.