Rima Grace

Or how do you how do you navigate that?

That must be so hard, by the way.

I feel like anyway, that's a whole other conversation.

Okay.

I'm curious, are there usually, do you find that there are deeper issues in the relationship if they're talking about money?

Like, are there other threads of mistrust that have come up in conversations?

So then you're working with a couple to look for other ways to create safety potentially, it sounds like.

And what can that look like?

I mean, I know it can probably vary so much from couple to couple.

It feels like such a stereotype, but that's wild from your experience.

It's consistently true.

That's what I was just thinking too.

I was like, wow.

And so that's so interesting, because so it sounds like there's just so much going on, right?

It's like, to your point, there's the background stuff, how they were raised with money, how they think about money.

And and then also that can be combined with like other dynamics and elements in the relationship that can create a feeling of mistrust or lack of safety.

It's a confluence of things.

Exactly.

Yeah, I know.

That's actually a question I kept thinking about.