Roxane Gay

And I do try to remember that.

That's a good question.

And we're finding out in real time.

It's a really dangerous, dangerous time because

And you say, like, are we there yet?

We're there for so many reasons.

And the dismantling of higher education, trying to get rid of the Department of Education, the way that they are trying to undermine scientific research, the way that they're trying to keep international students out of the country, all of this is part of a plan, which, again, we already know about because we have the PDF.

they released it and then they did it project 2025 imagine imagine it was it was pre it was what is it but with that you have to read required reading yes it was absolutely like we you know either you did your homework or you didn't but you know we're seeing the way they're trying to erode knowledge and

And we have to continually remind ourselves that science is real.

Facts matter.

And we have to do that work to make sure that we are as well informed as possible.

And I also believe we have to demand that there should be guardrails.

Like, the president is going to build a ballroom that is larger than the East Wing?

And there's no, like, congressional approval required?

I think a lot of us thought that the Constitution was stronger than it is turning out to be.

And it's interesting because Republicans oftentimes frame themselves as constitutionalists.

And now they're like, we thought it was a suggestion.

Originalist.

Yeah.

Yeah.