Sam Troth

And then since that one closed for signatures, we started another one, which is to remove the good character references.

Yeah.

What's the example you use?

So, you know, if we look at the most common example, everyone knows Javon McSkimming.

He received, I think it was 15, might've been 20, but it was definitely 15% discount for his previous good character off his sentence.

And we're seeing, I'm seeing cases all the time.

I share any case that comes up in the media, I share that onto my page.

And it's usually at least two a day.

And I do a highlight every couple of weeks and post that up as a video, as a reel, you know, with the different, all the headlines flashing through it, explaining how many there were.

But yeah, so Mick Skimming, he got that discount and it's happening all the time.

And quite often those discounts are the difference between these offenders getting more than two years or less than.

And as soon as they've got less than two years, it's home detention and they don't even go to prison.

It's huge.

And the aftermath, you know, is, you know,

A lot of broken people out there.

And so many people don't have that or they have other things that are stacked up against them and so they can't push through that and so they stay stuck in that cycle, you know, which I could have just as easily stayed in that cycle as well.

What is it that you think

So the last time I was in prison, bro, and I was sitting in the booth getting a non-contact, my first free non-contact booth visit.

I don't know how it works now.

It was 20 years ago.