Saskia

NLP might actually work.

This is wild.

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A year into dating, Mike was staying at Saskia's apartment most nights.

And then my lease was getting ready to be up.

And Mike and I both felt like it was just the natural progression to rent a place together.

So we started looking and it was really exciting.

They moved into a townhouse.

His daughters started sleeping over too, whenever they weren't with their mom.

Marisa felt like her sister had found the one.

With him in her balance, she did seem to be like kind of becoming her best self.

They seemed like good partners.

She brought the energy and the fun and he brought stability and, you know, it was a good match.

At the time, Marisa was going through a lot.

She and her husband, Ronnie, were trying to get pregnant, and Saskia could see it was weighing on her.

It was a lot of hope and disappointment regarding my sister's journey to have a child.

She had so many almosts where they were trying to do IVF.

She would be so excited, and a few weeks down the line, you know, they get the bad news, and I could just...

see that my sister was not going to be fulfilled without having her own family and having her own kids.

So then after the last time that they told her she didn't have any more tries with the IVF, I just said, you know, I would love to give it a try.