Sawyer (Mel's daughter)
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186 appearances
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2 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard Apr 2025
Sawyer (Mel's daughter)’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Hey. I can't stop crying. My face is so puffy. And it's all because I have no fucking idea what I'm doing. I want to make a lot of money, as everyone does, but as A 25 year old coming home from an extraordinary trip and thinking I'm gonna make so much money off the bat. I'm not. And I also haven't done anything to make money either. I'm dying.
I feel like there's a million things to do and I can't do anything. My to-do list feels like so long, but on my to-do list is like call so-and-so catch up with blank stop crying oh my god oh god i will
It's getting louder. Is it wind? Like, what is that? What is jingling?
Sawyer, welcome to the Mel Robbins Podcast. Thanks for sitting down with me. Thanks, Mom.
That's it, okay. Good setup. I think I always wanted to be, I knew I always wanted to be closer with you. And I think if I think back to before working together, our relationship, it wasn't horrible. I do have to preface. It was not horrible, but I don't think it was great.
So everything that I'm about to say, I think was very unintentional on your part. But I think after a lot of therapy and just reflecting on myself and I think especially working with you, I've recognized this since. But before growing up, I always thought it was intentional. And so I think a huge thing is the fact that you were never home and you were always on the road.
And then when you came home, all you did was talk about work. And I think that from my perspective as your kid, all I wanted you to do when you came home was like, come to my games and prioritize me and give me attention. And it just felt like it wasn't there unless we were asking you about your work. And I think on a separate note, My sister, Kendall, she is younger than me by 18 months.
She is a phenomenal singer and she is pursuing a career out in L.A. And she grew up as a performer and she grew up in the spotlight. And I think she... is on the same track as you in being in the spotlight and being out in the world and people recognizing you, which is unbelievable. But I think I saw the both of you always...
Relating on that and feeling very jealous that I didn't have a natural talent that I could deliver that would connect me to the two of you. So I always saw you guys as... on the other side of the room and her getting all the praise for all the singing and what she deserves and is amazing. But at the same time, I was just like, oh, I can't relate to my mom or my sister. Like, I'm different.
I don't have a natural ability. Every time I'm addressed, it's, oh, you're Kendall's sister. Oh, are you the singer? Or are you Mel Robbins's daughter? That's awesome. It's never like, oh, you're Sawyer? It's so nice to meet you. And so it was always I was a product of you or Kendall. And I think that that really made me... I think just resent you, honestly. And so instead of...
being really celebratory of your work and how much you worked and just you as a person, I think I saw it as all these fans, all these people out there who love my mom are taking my mom away from me. And so therefore, I'm not annoyed at all them. I'm annoyed at her.
In high school and in middle school, you were on the road upwards of 200 days in the year. And I think as you were gone, I always... I felt myself growing closer to dad and growing closer to Kendall and Oakley because we were always together. And then when you would come home, it felt like I...
I think it was a story I was telling myself, but it felt in my eyes like you either were talking about work or you were talking about Kendall.
and how are we going to grow Kendall's singing career, and how are we going to do this, and all of the plays and all this stuff, which is unbelievable, but I think that that was really my impression, is she's a workaholic, which she still is, but I have more of an appreciation for it now, and the fact that I just had this story in my head that...
It was like all I wanted was your attention and I felt like it was going everywhere but me. I think it was.
It's not okay. I forgive you.
Mm-hmm.
I think looking back, I pouted a little bit for sure. But it was, I think, definitely a little emotionally immature acting like an eight-year-old, which you'll learn in the Let Them Theory book. I think another thing with families that happens a lot is I naturally am a lot more similar to dad. And Kendall is a lot more similar to you. And I think Oakley is like a beautiful combination of you both.
I appreciate you saying that. Love you. And I also want to say, though, that I think there was a lot of times in our relationship where you really did try. Like you actively were constantly trying to break the barrier between our relationship.
Well, first of all, you tried to, let's go to the mall, swear. Let's buy you a few things so you don't dislike me. Which I think for those of you whose love language is gifting, I think it worked in the moment. And then the next day something would happen that would reconfirm this story I was telling myself that she doesn't care about me. And then it was back to this force field between us.
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