Steven Zuber

Yeah.

Maybe I'm not giving it enough credit.

yeah that that seems like he had an axe to grind which uh gives the whole thing a lot less credence for me um yeah but tell me if this is jumping the gun but i do want to talk about the eve theory of consciousness specifically but i just let's talk about venom okay first because i i think that that kind of there's a couple things that um you said that remind me of it sounds good one of the things so you said it's like on its face it's more likely that snake venom hallucinations

I do have something to throw out there that is too early yet, but I keep forgetting it than remembering it.

So I want to just plant it and we can circle back to it if we get time.

But I like the Eve Theory of Consciousness.

I think you make a fun and compelling case for it in this post, which again, it's the Eve Theory of Consciousness 3.0.

It isn't clear to me why Eve in...

You know, it's sort of the preservation of the ancient memory in the context of the post and possibly in the context of real life.

It's the preservation of the memory of where consciousness came from.

And that's where that story comes from.

What I'm trying to get at is it's not clear to me then why, maybe it's just an aberration of the original intended purpose of the myth or something, but Eve gets a lot of shit and it was punished for this rather than rewarded.

And it's not clear to me why that would be the case.

As does consciousness, right?

Yeah, but now we can plan for winter and, you know...

Yeah, I think we touched on this last time and I said, I gestured something, something, happy pig, sad Socrates.

I think that the pros outweigh the cons and the cons are huge, but so are the pros.

When one's that high on a psychedelic experience, the question, would I like to be like this all the time, isn't a question you can ask yourself because there's no self to ask.

And that's kind of at the root of what we're talking about.

Are you asking, would it be better to strip away the I?