Steven Zuber

It seeks to eliminate yearning slash desire, return us to pre-Eve, and nirvana is a literal extinction.

But hold on, just to say, because this goes back to what I was saying about why is Eve vilified?

If she did a bad by awakening humanity, then Buddhism is the savior, right?

Okay.

And I already gave my answer, so...

I mean, to the extent that you think existence is pain, then maybe that is the good thing.

But yeah, that sounds like a question for a real Buddhist.

I have a number of things, but I've been talking too much.

Stephen, hit your tangent.

Well, real quick, maybe this is an interesting question or not, but Andrew, have you had any profound experiences on psychedelics?

You certainly write like someone who has, but you don't talk about, at least in the posts I've read, any personal experiences.

The most profound thing that I was able to remember and take out of an experience was a, it's hard to say crystallized or refined because nothing is that articulate in the state of mind, but a better understanding of communicating.

You know, I mean to say something, you guys mean to understand it.

I think I understand your understanding and you think I understand my understanding of your understanding.

And so it was very recursive thought, but it was it was it was at the specifically just the idea around centering on the around communicating ideas.

But yet I didn't have any life transforming experiences that were like, I need to do this with my life now or anything like that either.

But I certainly find the experience is valuable, but I wouldn't necessarily say wholly indispensable to my life.

Were you saying that's not a problem or that's not a good title?

It's great clickbait, but yeah.

And it's true, but okay.