Sue Gordon
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 27 Jul
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And then he shares it disproportionately or doesn't protect it.
And again, it's not just the information.
It's about the methodology by which you got it and the humans that actually put their lives at stake, whether they are our people or our allies and partners' people.
I mean, to not understand that and then be casual with it
is just breathtakingly reckless in the case of the president.
And because he can talk to everyone, because the law allows it, but the reality should preclude it.
So in that direction, it's awful.
And we see that effect.
We see that effect, whether it is allies and partners who are not able to do the things they could force before because we exposed it by allowing our information to get out there or in lives that are lost or in people that won't work with us anymore.
And that makes us weaker.
But it's bad on the other side, because if...
You choose not to share all that information, right?
Can you imagine me saying, you know, even though I have this information, I'm not going to share with the president of the United States.
It's making the most consequential decisions.
I was never scared to tell him anything.
I was because that was responsibility and because we didn't see this future then.
We really did believe that we were trying to make him understand.
I mean, listen, details are always withheld if they're not germane to the point you're trying to make, but never a conclusion that was important.
So, you know, you kind of see both sides, both in this situation when the president is not responsible for
in his actions, either in sharing or not sharing, it breaks the whole system.
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