Susan Griffin-Black

Three times as much, five times as much inventory as we should have.

And then also layoffs for the first time, you know, that was— In your entire history.

Major, yeah.

I think it was smart, and it was good for the business and good for our family and good for our children.

And, you know, when you're a founder, entrepreneur, your business is kind of like another kid in some ways, right?

Yeah.

It was really the highest good in this situation.

And I also want to say for the record, you know, there were no other people involved and there was not like a betrayal.

So I have to say that out loud because I've had this conversation over the years so many times.

And, you know, people ask us all the time and we've been divorced for longer than we were married, you know, and we're family, you know, that's just how we are.

I am.

Sure.

Yes.

I'm like, you know, holding back and jumping in.

I'm so excited to meet you and did a little research on your website.

And I wish you were around when...

My kids were little, you know, because there's a real need for products that work that are not steroids.

And so, you know, I'm not an expert really at D2C because we've sort of chosen a different path to be in natural food stores.

And that can get quite pricey in its own right.

But I like spreading out distribution because it all feeds back into D2C anyway.