Tim Storey

if we can have an exchange.

So I've had some help with it, but it's very intentional because as you know, the way we communicate can change people's lives.

Let's see if we can swap.

Like the old days in the farms, let's say your family had too many horses and my family had too many cows.

So we would swap cows for horses.

And that's what I do with my pitches is that I'm not coming and trying to get ABC to buy me.

I honestly don't think that I can be really beat on a pitch.

Look at me.

I'm fancy.

I think that a lot of the things that are talked about with sales and pitching is we're trying to convince somebody of something.

You should buy my show.

No.

What do you need?

Your programming seems down in this area, up in this area.

I'm like a master.

What are you looking for?

And part of it, I learned from some of the masters that have been around for a long time that do very well.

And recently at one of the big networks, I was talking to one of the guys.

He said, can I break character for a minute?

And he was the head of his division in one of the top three of ABC, CBS, and