Winston Weinberg

There has to be a couple really good ideas that you say no to.

And it's the same as across the entire company.

And Brian Halligan has been really helpful with kind of teaching me how to do that for myself and how to do it with the rest of the company.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I think that's right.

It should feel painful.

It really should.

And I didn't do that in the beginning.

I was like, ah, we'll just do everything, whatever.

And I think, having said that, I do think you can do more.

And I think you can be very ambitious.

But you do have to strike a balance between the two.

I've always respected Founders Fund.

I've always really, really respected them.

I've respected the hell out of their companies, too, and a lot of their founders.

I respect them a lot, and we have never worked with them.

I mean, we obviously have revenue targets and things like that.

But what I want to switch from is a productivity software that is like a nice to have to closer to like an operating system that is like pretty much crucial to the industry.

And so it's more how do we how do we we built a lot of different like features across the board, right?

Like we very much like in Parker Conrad's voice, like built a compound startup, like very much.