Yowei Shaw

Like when Brian's mother-in-law reads to his daughter, or when the family takes an extra long walk in the neighborhood, or sitting on the stoop together.

Brian's personal favorite way to connect is to sing.

Like some Donny Hathaway song will come on, and Brian and his mother-in-law will end up singing together, sometimes dancing.

I've acted out my life in stages

You mean literally, literally saying it in a Mickey Mouse voice?

Yeah.

I asked Claudia to send me a voice memo later to demonstrate.

Claudia says the act of Brian hearing himself say this thought in the voice of a cartoon mouse.

Can help him see it as ridiculous.

Can help him stop self-flagellating.

Thank you to Brian Reed for being today's guest.

And thank you to Claudia Drossel for being today's proxy.

Claudia is a psychology professor at Eastern Michigan University, where she's the director of the Center for the Advancement of Neurobehavioral Health.

After the proxy conversation, Ryan and his wife did a consult with Claudia to see about working together.

But you do not have to personally reach out to get resources.

Claudia put together a list for caregivers, which we'll put in our show notes.

Yoe, hello. Welcome. Thank you for coming. Hello. Thank you so much for having me. I feel like I've made it to the Gossip Olympics or something.

Yoe, hello. Welcome. Thank you for coming. Hello. Thank you so much for having me. I feel like I've made it to the Gossip Olympics or something.

I'm always hunting for gossip to the point where some of my friends find me dramatic. Which I disagree with. I'm just looking to be entertained. And I am launching this new podcast, so I don't do anything right now. I've just been in crunch mode, and I am depending on my friends' gossip to feel alive. Recently, I had these two friends who did this very cute thing.

I'm always hunting for gossip to the point where some of my friends find me dramatic. Which I disagree with. I'm just looking to be entertained. And I am launching this new podcast, so I don't do anything right now. I've just been in crunch mode, and I am depending on my friends' gossip to feel alive. Recently, I had these two friends who did this very cute thing.