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That's according to the second and final report from the public inquiry into the West London Tower block fire on the 14th of June 2017, which killed 72 people. Wrapped in highly combustible cladding and insulation, the building went up in an inferno during the night, while residents were sleeping in a block with no sprinklers, no communal fire alarms and failing fire doors.

That's according to the second and final report from the public inquiry into the West London Tower block fire on the 14th of June 2017, which killed 72 people. Wrapped in highly combustible cladding and insulation, the building went up in an inferno during the night, while residents were sleeping in a block with no sprinklers, no communal fire alarms and failing fire doors.

Grenfell United, a campaign group for victims and their families, released a statement saying the recommendations published today are basic safety principles that should already exist, highlighting how the government's roles, duties and obligations have been hollowed out by privatisation.

Grenfell United, a campaign group for victims and their families, released a statement saying the recommendations published today are basic safety principles that should already exist, highlighting how the government's roles, duties and obligations have been hollowed out by privatisation.

Now, we've looked at this issue before on Pod Save the UK. Please do go back in our feed to find the episode with Peter Apps where we explored the depths of the failure here. But to discuss today's report, we're joined now by James Riding, Chief Reporter at Inside Housing, which has followed every step of the inquiry. Thanks for joining us, James.

Now, we've looked at this issue before on Pod Save the UK. Please do go back in our feed to find the episode with Peter Apps where we explored the depths of the failure here. But to discuss today's report, we're joined now by James Riding, Chief Reporter at Inside Housing, which has followed every step of the inquiry. Thanks for joining us, James.

So the final report, it's been seven years in the making. All the evidence has been heard in public, but having read it in full, what has shocked you today, if anything?

So the final report, it's been seven years in the making. All the evidence has been heard in public, but having read it in full, what has shocked you today, if anything?

You talked earlier about the changes that could be implemented and how much that would affect the construction industry. Obviously, we are in the throes of a new Tory leadership race. And as it so happens, I came across James Cleverley talking about some of the things he would do. And he talked about cutting up red tape, talked about regulation.

You talked earlier about the changes that could be implemented and how much that would affect the construction industry. Obviously, we are in the throes of a new Tory leadership race. And as it so happens, I came across James Cleverley talking about some of the things he would do. And he talked about cutting up red tape, talked about regulation.

I think he even used Cameron's ideology, which was mentioned in Peter Abt's book, which is like, you know, for every rule brought in, we'll get rid of two. Do you think that this ideological pursuit of deregulation, cutting red tape, has a role? And is that also currently still gripping building projects despite having seen the tragedy of Grenfell?

I think he even used Cameron's ideology, which was mentioned in Peter Abt's book, which is like, you know, for every rule brought in, we'll get rid of two. Do you think that this ideological pursuit of deregulation, cutting red tape, has a role? And is that also currently still gripping building projects despite having seen the tragedy of Grenfell?

And what about criminal ramifications for some of the actors involved in this?

And what about criminal ramifications for some of the actors involved in this?

My goodness me. I remember when we interviewed Peter Apps, one of the things he pointed out was that the story of Grenfell really lays bare the inequalities in society and whose lives matter more, who has more power, who has more influence.

My goodness me. I remember when we interviewed Peter Apps, one of the things he pointed out was that the story of Grenfell really lays bare the inequalities in society and whose lives matter more, who has more power, who has more influence.

You know, so Leslie Thomas Casey, representing the survivors and victims' families, made the point that while Kensington and Chelsea is one of the smallest and richest boroughs, Grenfell's residents were overwhelmingly working class. He said the fire was inextricably linked with race. I'm just wondering, what did the report say on this?

You know, so Leslie Thomas Casey, representing the survivors and victims' families, made the point that while Kensington and Chelsea is one of the smallest and richest boroughs, Grenfell's residents were overwhelmingly working class. He said the fire was inextricably linked with race. I'm just wondering, what did the report say on this?

I suppose it doesn't go so far as to use the word racist or institutional racism.

I suppose it doesn't go so far as to use the word racist or institutional racism.